Who does Heather care about?

Not Siabella & Mikailin Kenworthy!!!

LCSW - State Appointed Children's Therapist 

Threats By LCSW Children's Therapist on Siabella & Mikailin, Threats to their family & father! - Unknown Artist
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Samantha Brown:
Hello? Hello? Hello?

HC:
Yes. I'm just calling you as a courtesy to let you know that I did call the Englewood Police and alerted them to this disturbance.

Lee:
So did we.

HC:
Okay, just do yourself, do everybody a favor? Let the woman into her room? Okay.

Lee:
Another passive threat, sure, we'll let the woman into her room when she physically threatened everyone and threatened our children and threatened directly, us.

HC:
Okay.

Lee:
This is my M.O., Hudson County. This is my M.O.

Samantha Brown:
All recorded.

HC:
Something needs to happen. If there needs to be any engagement. The police has been notified. Should they do anything, the police will come and arrest them. Now, if there are children in the home... [crosstalk 00:00:53]

Lee:
The police will come and arrest us? Police will come and arrest us.

Samantha Brown:
Children in the home?

Lee:
That's Hudson County threatening us. [crosstalk 00:01:00]

HC:
...there are no children in the home, when there are two tenants who's not on the lease, so they'll have to go too.

Lee:
They're not tenants, sweety. They're not tenants. They're not tenants, they're friends. Okay?

HC:
My thing is, the best thing for anybody to do is to let [Callie 00:01:16] and her partner into her room, she just notified the police.

HC:
That would be the smart thing to do. Anybody in there who would, thinking outside of the lens of grandiosity, I would let her go into her room. Mind your own business. That would be wonderful.

Lee:
No one is thinking outside grandiosity. May I speak? Okay.

HC:
Now remember, there are children, there are no children in the room or are they in the custody of the state? I assume they're in the custody of the state.

Lee:
Thank you for your arrogance. May I speak? [crosstalk 00:01:41].

HC:
What is more truthful is, all those children have been taken by the state. That's more truthful. So, again... [crosstalk 00:01:53]

Lee:
May I speak now? May I speak now? You thug with a degree who works for the system? May I speak now? You totalitarian thug.

HC:
[crosstalk 00:02:04] okay, speak, speak, speak.

Lee:
Thank you. What's your name, who am I speaking with? What's your name? Who am I speaking with? What is your name? Who am I speaking with?

HC:
I don't play that game, please.

Lee:
Oh, you don't put your name on the record? I understand. Okay, so I will speak this is not...

HC:
Are we saying on the record with your cellphone recording, is that what you're doing? I understand how this works. [Crosstalk 00:02:32]

Lee:
Sweety, may I speak? Sweety, may I speak?

Lee:
You said I can speak. May I speak.

HC:
You are really making the situation way worse, when you have two people living in the house who aren't on the lease. [crosstalk 00:02:46].

Lee:
May I speak? They're not living here.

HC:
May I remind you ...

Lee:
No, you're going to threaten me. That's what you've been doing, that's what Heather's been doing for months.

HC:
Listen, I'd have no need threatening you if you'd.. [crosstalk 00:03:02] .

Lee:
So then let me speak. Let me speak, ma'am. [crosstalk 00:03:07] Let me speak. Let me speak so you could hear some more information.

HC:
Speak, speak.

Lee:
Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I appreciate that. So many details that Heather has not told you. Some of the details that Callie has not told you is all that we wanted to discuss today with Callie was the two cats downstairs that are urinating all over our clean clothes and dirty clothes because they don't have a litter box and we would appreciate them not purchasing alcohol and getting a litter box or removing the two cats that were not supposed to be here. As Heather knew, [crosstalk 00:03:45] May I continue speaking, may I continue speaking? May I continue speaking? I know how to over speak too.

HC:
Not when you're yelling. Not when you're yelling.

Lee:
Ma'am, ma'am, just because you're using your sweet little tone and your degree that.

HC:
I asked a question.

Lee:
What was your question?

HC:
You said the cat can't be there.

Lee:
I'm sorry.

HC:
You said that the cat can't be there. That's what happened.

Lee:
Who said that? Heather said that and we said that? And technically if you'll want and get technical, there's no pets on the lease as far as Heather knows too. So we could get technical.

HC:
I think you need to take your dog out then.

Lee:
Do you hear them in the background? Then get my effing dog? So you people aren't threatening us, right? You people are threatening us?

HC:
Okay, let me talk to you.

Lee:
Okay, lets you and I talk because let's you and I get to know each other, sweety. Let's you and I get to know each other.

HC:
You're contradicting yourself. [inaudible 00:04:42] I know you have a dog.

Lee:
That doesn't mean anything. That doesn't mean anything. Because when I actually, listen to me, no. See your won't let me speak. There are no pets on the lease. When I actually put the lease in my name, which I'd been trying to do since September, I will be straight up because that is who I am and I will make sure my dog is on the lease because I am not Heather.

HC:
It's not on the lease right now. Your name is not on the lease so you have to play nice with everybody who goes into the house.

Lee:
Oh, I got to play nice when Heather's been threatening me for three months? Is that what Hudson County telling me? Where I got a false charge with the property sheet sweetie?

HC:
Okay. Listen to me carefully. You are making this far more problematic than it needs to be. [crosstalk 00:05:22]

Lee:
Do you know anything about my situation? Do you know anything about my situation before you go any further, do you know anything about my situation?

HC:
...You're putting yourself in. You you are putting yourself in a situation where the police are going to be involved over you not letting somebody go to into their room to go sleep.

Lee:
No, no. I will not be threatened where I'm living. That is what's happening here. That is what Callie did. You understand that? That is what happened tonight.

HC:
Why didn't you call police?

Lee:
We did. We went through some of it.

HC:
What happened?

Lee:
I'm not an asshole. [crosstalk 00:05:56] I'm not an asshole, ma'am.

HC:
We did call the police, that's not what was said to us.

Lee:
Ma'am? What was texted from Heather was if I don't do this, this and this, after Heather's been behaving the way she has with me for three months and going on a year, I said, don't threaten me, Heather, passively or aggressively with the police. So I understand.

HC:
It's not passive aggressive because we've already spoken with police.

Lee:
Oh, okay. It's, it's a direct threat. It's a direct threat after she's been passively aggressively and directly threatening me. So thank you for the admission of guilt.

HC:
Do you know what passive aggressive means? Do you understand what that means? I'm telling you it is not passive aggressive, it is direct because we have called the police, [Rick 00:06:34].

Lee:
What I said no, no, no, no sweetie. What I said is Heather has been passive aggressively attacking and threatening me for over three months and for over a year. Well, I am engaged in a federal lawsuit.

HC:
But you haven't been in that home in over a year and she was being passive aggressively. And that's not really a phrase or a word. But if she's been doing that, do you think she would've allowed you to move in and assume some part of the lease? Do you understand that this is not really making any sense? But listen to me carefully. All you have to do... [crosstalk 00:07:10]

Lee:
Here's one thing, they could come. We've already established that they could come. They are not to threaten anyone in the house. [crosstalk 00:07:16].

HC:
Oh my goodness. Thank you so much.

Lee:
We already established that. They are not to threaten anyone like they did before.

HC:
What? Oh my goodness. This is going on way too long. Wonderful. So now the police don't have to come to the house. You're going to let her walk into her room, you're not going to open your mouth, or your girlfriend or [Evie 00:07:36] or [Nate 00:07:41] . And she's going to go in her house and you're going to go into yours and everybody is going to be real peaceful? Wonderful.

Samantha Brown:
Now would you tell us your name?

Lee:
Hold up.

HC:
Who am I speaking to now? Who was listening?

Lee:
That would be Samantha. Samantha would like to know your name. That's a fair question.

HC:
Who?

Lee:
Samantha.

Samantha Brown:
Samantha Brown.

Lee:
Stop.

HC:
Who is Samantha?

Lee:
Samantha Brown, she's a witness, a federal witness.

HC:
But is she on the lease? No, I'm not going to listen to her, I'm sorry. She's not really [crosstalk 00:08:07].

Lee:
But you're going to listen to Callie who's also not on the lease. Okay.

HC:
Callie is there placed on that lease in that residence by the lease holder.

Lee:
Guess what? I am the one who is on the utilities and I am the one who's been sending checks three months, so legally played with me again. Legally play with me again. And then I legally protect myself.

HC:
Here's something about your [inaudible 00:08:31] . Are you listening? I want you to be clear about your story. You are not on the lease, other than the lease.

Lee:
Sweety, my checks, like I said, my checks, hold on. My checks had been the one cashed by the landlord for three months, but legalities, I know. Okay.

HC:
What you're saying is he gathered all the money together, isn't the question who pays you? Callie pays you, right?

Lee:
Callie's money got stolen by Heather who didn't pay anything this month because she didn't pay for the toilet.

HC:
Everybody pays you. Because you never know if he's making people pay extra.

Speaker 4:
He is.

Samantha Brown:
No. [crosstalk 00:09:12].

Lee:
See her game? Do you see the game?

HC:
There's going to be a change to this. There's going to be a change. From now on Heather is going to collect the rent and that's done.

Lee:
Guess what. There's not going to be changed to shit [crosstalk 00:09:25] at all because the lease is going into my name. Plain and simple. You are not also, are you with the landlord, are you with the landlord too?

HC:
Well, what are we doing right now? Should we hang [inaudible 00:09:39].

Speaker 4:
That would be good. You could just move.

Lee:
Are you, Oh I did just move? I could just move. Are you with the landlord?

HC:
You could just move.

Lee:
Are you with the landlord? Do you have authorization to speak for the landlord? Do you have authorization to speak for the landlord?

HC:
Does he know about the lease situation?

Lee:
Yes, I do.

HC:
Okay. Okay, cool. Then we're not going to sublet it right now. But listen to me carefully. I think what happens next is Callie should be allowed to go back into her room without the police having to escort her. That's what I think should happen.

Lee:
Callie's going to stay. Does he know about the lease situation?

HC:
He might've hung up and maybe not.

Lee:
No, we're here.

HC:
I think what I really do think in this new leasing situation, you should really get him off the lease because as long as..

Speaker 4:
But he's not on the lease. But he's purporting he is on the lease [crosstalk 00:10:40] .

Lee:
No, what I'm stating is that utilities are in my name.

HC:
Thanks for working it out. I'm so confused.

Lee:
Yeah, you're so confused. Ha ha ha ha, your degrees, ha ha ha, your pretention, ha ha ha, what you don't get, ha ha ha.

HC:
You're really mad, aren't you?

Lee:
I'm really mad? No, I'm doing the same shit that you are. [crosstalk 00:10:59].

Speaker 4:
No, I recognize. [crosstalk 00:11:03]. I am somebody who cares about the bipolar population and I really want everybody to get along [crosstalk 00:11:13] .

Lee:
So then what's your name? What's your name if you care?

Speaker 4:
If you are medicated, and you're not hurting anybody else.

Lee:
I'm medicated, I've been taking my medication every single day.

Speaker 5:
Forced medication by the way.

HC:
I don't thing you've been taking your medication, sir.

Samantha Brown:
Yes he has.

HC:
Absolutely not. If you were taking your medication then none of this stuff would be happening and Callie could go in her room.

Interviewer:                         Can you let our viewers know, who are you?

HC:                                              My name is Heather Christensen, I'm a registered play therapist, supervisor, social worker, and divorce mediator. I have a private practice here in Englewood, New Jersey.

Interviewer:                         Okay, and how did you meet Lee?

HC:                                              I put an ad in Craigslist, I don't know, about a year ago, offering my attic space to anyone who needed help, needed a place to stay and somewhere safe where they could get their life together. and Lee responded to the post and he moved in the same day. Him, his two children and his dog.

Interviewer:                         What was your first impression of Lee?

HC:                                              Well, I've come to know Lee and it's pretty clear to me that the whole family is in the throes of grieving and there's probably a lot of trauma, a history of trauma. I think the hardest thing for them has been the instability, the homelessness, just trying to make it day by day.

Interviewer:                         How would you say Lee and his kids have been coping?

HC:                                              They've been coping remarkably well. When he was staying with me for those few months, the kids were still in school, and it just impressed me so much that every day he'd get up with those kids, schlep them all the way to Lodi and almost every day after school he would take them to the park for an hour or more. Maybe part of his motivation was to stay out of the house, out of our hair, because he was a guest. But I was just so impressed by his just steadfastness and just getting up every single day and making it work, whatever had to be done that day. It's quite inspiring to witness.

Interviewer:                         How do you think you would want to support Lee or our viewers should support Lee?

HC:                                              Well, Lee's talked in detail about the incident surrounding Shay's death, and I really wanted to go on camera today to say that his case deserves another look. There's enough evidence to indicate that there could be some foul play that went on, and I just want to support him in whatever efforts it takes to have this case looked at again.

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